Muslims

[Guest]

The ethical basis of muslim is illegal in most countries. ie. There are laws in place to ensure women and men are equals. Part of muslim values places women as 2nd class citizens. Their full-body costumes are designed to hide the women from the men because the men can't control their own sexual urges.
Like all major religions, muslim also relies on dominance and control over others. Hence NO major religion is ever peaceful regardless of whether blowing up things has been associated with them or not. Most are more subtle, but they are all organised forms of slavery.

[Polgara69]

Never said I disagreed on that point but you sound a little like Fred unfortunatly. He seems to have some ideal that we should all live by and while, yes it would be lovely to all get along as we should and love thy neighbour and all that malarky, its just not feasable. I know its not fair but when someone gets on my bus sporting a full beard and wearing voluminus robes, I think what are they hiding. Rightly or wrongly, I know its not fair but thats life. Yes they should be allowed to wear what the hell they like but it bornes suspicion. As for Iraq, remind me again while we are there? And why we are having our soldiers killed? I think it had something to do with the fact that their leaders decided to have the whole world change their thinking to their ideas and bomb the buggers who didnt want to. Wasnt it something like that? Or am I just being a bit paranoid?

Just to prove my point.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/7426562.stm

And apart from anything else, this held up the city centre for quite some time and a lot of people were unable to get the bus home because we couldnt get in or out of the centre. (Just because I have been called paranoid and suspicious I thought I might defend myself!)

[xxx01]

What's the deal with these groups that want to attack us for no apparent reason?

Is there any way of making these people integrate with us and accept that some of us are different? For instance I like to wear women's clothes, skirts, panties heels etc. I know if I was living in their land they would kill me as they look down on women but I wonder if all of us can live together in peace?

KiltyCol

They are an evil people .

[noodles]

Never said I disagreed on that point but you sound a little like Fred unfortunatly. He seems to have some ideal that we should all live by and while, yes it would be lovely to all get along as we should and love thy neighbour and all that malarky, its just not feasable. I know its not fair but when someone gets on my bus sporting a full beard and wearing voluminus robes, I think what are they hiding. Rightly or wrongly, I know its not fair but thats life. Yes they should be allowed to wear what the hell they like but it bornes suspicion. As for Iraq, remind me again while we are there? And why we are having our soldiers killed? I think it had something to do with the fact that their leaders decided to have the whole world change their thinking to their ideas and bomb the buggers who didnt want to. Wasnt it something like that? Or am I just being a bit paranoid?

Just to prove my point.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/7426562.stm

And apart from anything else, this held up the city centre for quite some time and a lot of people were unable to get the bus home because we couldnt get in or out of the centre. (Just because I have been called paranoid and suspicious I thought I might defend myself!)

Whilst i still totally disagree with your viewpoint if you personally experienced this I can understand why you have a high sensitivity to it. Im not taking the piss there im serious.

[Polgara69]

Precisely. I didnt post that to tell people that I hate all muslims (I dont!) but to show that I have reason to be a little more mistrustful than others. I am sure that people who have to catch the tube feel a little the same. If your circumstances bring you into contact with these things and bring them closer to home then, yes, you are going to have a different opinion to someone who doesnt.

[Guest]

some peeps jump to hasty conclusions....

[Polgara69]

Yeah just like the driver of the number 22 to Evington (whom I know personally) who was quite upset by all this happening on his bus.

[noodles]

I've been mugged before now. I have a high sensitivity to people walking closely behind me although i understand its highly unlikely to happen again and very unfair on the poor people i shiftily look round at.

My irrationality does not a truth make.


And why we are having our soldiers killed? I think it had something to do with the fact that their leaders decided to have the whole world change their thinking to their ideas and bomb the buggers who didnt want to. Wasnt it something like that? Or am I just being a bit paranoid?

You read that somewhere - read about it somewhere else and the viewpoint will be different. Many many people dont believe the death of any of our soldiers is in anyway justified. Sadam was a ally of the west when it suited them. As for him wanting to bomb people who disagreed with him - check out the history of america and uk - we do just that all the time.

[Guest]

muslims execute gay people

[noodles]

muslims execute gay people

and thats a shitty law and summat gay rights campaigners are fighting hard to change. And its not all muslims, there are many gay muslims and muslims who accept homosexuals. Homosexuality was illegal in the UK until 1967 and it was only 1992 that is was no longer classed as a mental health problem (in DSSM). The answer to change things wont come through more hatred and attacking the ignorant and trust me its everywhere.

[Guest]

muslims execute gay people

and thats a shitty law and summat gay rights campaigners are fighting hard to change. And its not all muslims, there are many gay muslims and muslims who accept homosexuals. Homosexuality was illegal in the UK until 1967 and it was only 1992 that is was no longer classed as a mental health problem (in DSSM). The answer to change things wont come through more hatred and attacking the ignorant and trust me its everywhere.

not least on this board

[KiltyCol]

What's the deal with these groups that want to attack us for no apparent reason?
............... but I wonder if all of us can live together in peace?
KiltyCol

"KiltyCol2" is not me and does not necessarily represent my views on religious groups. I'm all for tolerance, peace and equality.

A bunch of "Feral Trolls", posing as Guests, are trying to impersonate me.

We are hoping to enlist the Boggarts to eliminate the Feral Trolls.

http://www.boggart-brewery.co.uk/boggart-story-boggart-brewery.html

The battle will either be at
Boggart Hole Clough - North Manchester,
High Hoyland - near Barnsley,
or in Worcestershire near my house.
Venue yet to be confirmed.

No DOUGHBALL here - ABSOLUTE FACT.

[Cambridge]

I am not going to sit here and thinks up dozens of examples just to appease you.

Okay, so don’t expect to convince anyone.

You know that these things happen and when somebody questions it we get 'racist' thrown at us.

You see, “no” I don’t know anything of the sort. I think that is precisely the presumption that we are resisting.

I have seen their attitudes change and the way they conduct themselves.

But isn’t that precisely what we are pointing out about you? Isn’t what you say an “attitude?” How come it’s fair for you, but not for them to have the same reaction?

So where do they learn about hate?

You have to ask this question, seriously? What did the British (along with the US) do in 2003? Guess. It involves the words “invade” and “Iraq.”

you cant tell who is and who isnt.

How?

They are an evil people .

But isn’t that also true of you, too, xxx01? Aren’t your people the evil ones who are taking away their territory and oil?

[Guest]

muslims execute gay people

they do

[KiltyCol]

Whilst as a Christian, I do not believe that God intended us to be gay, we have no right to pass judgement and execute those that do not fit in with our ideas. Equally those in other religions have the same "no right" to pass that judgement and execute those who do not fit their mould. We need to all be tolerant of other beliefs and that includes Muslims also being tolerant and respecting equality of gender, faith etc.