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Postby Cambridge on Wed May 14, 2008 6:22 am

In the inimitable words of the Dick, Chaney, SO??? Where are the WMDs? The rest is all bull s***.

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Postby azraelle on Wed May 14, 2008 12:49 pm

Cambridge wrote:In the inimitable words of the Dick, Chaney, SO??? Where are the WMDs? The rest is all bull s***.

There are thousands of square miles of sand in Iraq, even more along the Iranian border "neutral zone", any remote (from towns/villages/people/obvious surface buildings) location of which could have been used to bury the damn stuff, none of which we would have the first clue as to where to start looking for. My personal pet theory is that Saddam made a secret agreement with Iran to move them to Iran, and, given the fact that the majority of fighters and funding for the continued resistance for the last 5 years has come from Iran, it is not really far-fetched to believe that Saddam concluded that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and therefore made such an agreement.

Anyone who believes otherwise is "either a fool or a knave".
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Postby myron myron on Wed May 14, 2008 2:16 pm

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

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Postby honest orator on Wed May 14, 2008 11:06 pm

If the Yanks reckoned that Iraq had WOMD, they must have seen them, one way are another, so if they had seen them, they should have known where they were. Further to that, if Iraqi's had moved the weapons, the Yanks would have seen them being moved by one of there many spies in the sky.

Iraq clearly had no WOMD, if you remember, Sadam said before the war, "you will know by the end of the war, that America is lying (as usual) by the fact that we will not be using any during the war. It has to be said that Saddam was more honest than Bush and Blair.

Any one who thinks Sadam had WOMD and would not use them if he was loosing the war, is either a fool or a knave or maybe even a genuine dozy pillock, with all due respect of course. :D

Sadam saying "don't use those WOMD boys, we dont want to hurt too many Yanks, and besides its just not cricket old bean, yeh right.

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Postby The Colonel on Wed May 14, 2008 11:22 pm

myron myron wrote:Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.


That's not what you've said to me.
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Postby myron myron on Wed May 14, 2008 11:50 pm

The Colonel wrote:
myron myron wrote:Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

That's not what you've said to me.

That is exactly what I've said to you in the context of God.

But you're feeble-minded and don't remember things.

That's why you're a career killer and not in a thinking profession.

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Postby Big Ben on Thu May 15, 2008 12:08 am

azraelle wrote:
Cambridge wrote:In the inimitable words of the Dick, Chaney, SO??? Where are the WMDs? The rest is all bull s***.

There are thousands of square miles of sand in Iraq, even more along the Iranian border "neutral zone", any remote (from towns/villages/people/obvious surface buildings) location of which could have been used to bury the damn stuff, none of which we would have the first clue as to where to start looking for. My personal pet theory is that Saddam made a secret agreement with Iran to move them to Iran, and, given the fact that the majority of fighters and funding for the continued resistance for the last 5 years has come from Iran, it is not really far-fetched to believe that Saddam concluded that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and therefore made such an agreement.

Anyone who believes otherwise is "either a fool or a knave".


The US announced it was going to invade Iraq to get dubya-m-d months before they actually did. Iraq had plenty of time to move them to Syria. Or, if they were biological or chemical, simply destroyed them - the key is the know how of producing them and after we were gone, they could make another batch. Not finding them doesn't mean they weren't there.

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Postby Cambridge on Thu May 15, 2008 3:42 am

There are thousands of square miles of sand in Iraq, even more along the Iranian border "neutral zone", any remote (from towns/villages/people/obvious surface buildings) location of which could have been used to bury the damn stuff, none of which we would have the first clue as to where to start looking for. My personal pet theory is that Saddam made a secret agreement with Iran to move them to Iran, and, given the fact that the majority of fighters and funding for the continued resistance for the last 5 years has come from Iran, it is not really far-fetched to believe that Saddam concluded that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and therefore made such an agreement.


Interesting how confused we get. The question isn’t how the WMDs might have been hidden, but were they there in the first place(?). Speculating that WMDs were trading around like dominos or destroyed is like speculating that Santa didn't come to our house cause his reindeer broke down. After all, the US started the Muslim American war (against the better judgment of all of Europe and the West). You've usually got to have positive evidence before you go killing human beings. WHERE WAS THE EVIDENCE THAT WE SHOULD GO STArT A F***ING WAR IN THE FIRST PLACE??? Forgive my all-caps, but I get so tired trying to teach students when they won’t concentrate.

My personal pet theory is that Saddam made a secret agreement with Iran to move them to Iran, and, given the fact that the majority of fighters and funding for the continued resistance for the last 5 years has come from Iran, it is not really far-fetched to believe that Saddam concluded that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" and therefore made such an agreement.


This is from the intelligence of a child. Saddam was a Sunni; the Iranians are Shiites. They hate each other, and we’re just an insignificant bother in their on-going religious war of almost 1400 years. That, my friend, is the civil war that we are trying to stop…and one wonders why? Brother, where did you learn international relations…from Tijuana Tech? Copernicus proved that the sun does not circle the earth, but you still believe that the sun circles the US. Iran would love to destabilize the US grasp on Iraq, but only if it disadvantaged Sunnis and gave them superiority in the region. And you think Saddam supported that? Psshawsh…

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Postby myron myron on Thu May 15, 2008 3:14 pm

"Psshawsh" my ass.

It is a fact that during the 1991 Persian Gulf War, Saddam ordered that Iraqi MIGs be flown to Iran to escape capture by the Americans.

You, Cambridge, have the "the intelligence of a child." :lol:

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Postby Bobin on Thu May 15, 2008 3:21 pm

myron myron wrote:Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.


aahhh ... the wisdom of zen

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Blow it out your ears, myron !!!

Postby Bushwalker on Thu May 15, 2008 5:14 pm

myron myron wrote:Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.


Everyone else realises it was about liberating the oil, and not the people - why can't you, myron ???

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Re: Blow it out your ears, myron !!!

Postby myron myron on Thu May 15, 2008 5:16 pm

Bushwalker wrote:
myron myron wrote:Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Everyone else realises it was about liberating the oil, and not the people - why can't you, myron ???

:roll:

Because I'm not as simple-minded as "everyone else" to whom you refer.

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Postby Cambridge on Sat May 17, 2008 4:03 am

Psshawsh" my ass.

It is a fact that during the 1991 Persian Gulf War, Saddam ordered that Iraqi MIGs be flown to Iran to escape capture by the Americans.

You, Cambridge, have the "the intelligence of a child."


Words…and nothing but words, half-truth. You have the appreciation of the International Relations of the region that ranks with Big Bird and the Grouch. In a word, Stupid.

Sunnis and Shiites do not get along. This has been going on for about 1400 years. You think they care about us? Guess again. They want to kill each other. We have presented the possibility, only now we’re preventing them from killing each other. Here’s what Iraqis want: get the F*** outta here US, and we’ll kill all the Sunnis and Shiites we wish. That is the final result of the Muslim American War.

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Postby Lena on Sat May 17, 2008 4:28 am

WMD's hidden in Syria ? Fat chance . :!:

It's over 5 years since the US won the war but none have popped up yet .The way little georgey wants to go to war with Syria if there was any truth to that we wud have been told by now ..............

The next big lie will be how the WMD's are hidden in Iran.............. :lol:

Then when someone wants to invade Botswana or Nepal they'll say the WMD's were really there all along ................ :lol:
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Postby myron myron on Sat May 17, 2008 4:33 am

Hillary wants to invade Iran.

Obama wants to invade Pakistan.

But both are fine with you because they are Democrats.

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