can a man be a feminist?

[steve20]

Feminism is a philosophy, so yes a man can adopt a feministic outlook.

[Guest]

Very desperate to switch the subject to spelling, only because all women here have nothing to say anymore. You are all just ignorant imo. Some people here are not from a english speaking country(like me). However, their opinions are just the same. And in this thread the opinion of some foreign persons clearly controlled all of you women.

Make some sense first before you add to a discussion !

[Guest]

Very desperate to switch the subject to spelling, only because all women here have nothing to say anymore. You are all just ignorant imo. Some people here are not from a english speaking country(like me). However, their opinions are just the same. And in this thread the opinion of some foreign persons clearly controlled all of you women.

Make some sense first before you add to a discussion !

read first before you get offended by a post. the sense is right there yo!

[Guest]

I think I am one.

[Guest]

As a young boy I often fantisized of being superman and coming to the rescue of my mother who suffered (in mind, body and spirit) and the hands of my father who was nothing short of a tyrant (it's a very long story) but I said that to say this: As a defender of my mother, brother of three sisters, best friend to my wife, father of five daughters, I just have to say that I despise a chauvinist man, I despise a woman beater, control freaks and playboy wannabe's (womanizer) while on the other hand I also despise the spinless, gutless, the selfish, needy, jealous and insecure man. It's my opinion that a lot of men (if not most) have no business being in a relationship with a woman. I will teach my daughters to strive for higher education, self reliance and being independant (in need of no man), to have self respect (to love who and what they are). I will teach them that men are just accessories to be discarded if they don't match or measure up. I pity the fool who gets in the way. My gosh! am I a feminist?

it's possible, however i dated a boy who was a fan of germaine greer and he used to hit me.. so not sure rly.

[The Antifeminist]

I am an ANTIFEMINIST myself. I've seen enough of feministic ideologies and stupidity to be put off it for life. It doesn't mean I don't support women's rights, groups or movements, heck I even donate to women's groups.

But let me outline why I'm against feminists particular the N.O.W type:

-N.O.W has opposed equal parenting movements whether fathers are heavily dicriminated and lose the majority of custody battles due to money leeching courts. Despite the fact that the majority of child abuse is perpetrated by single mothers (though there are far more single mothers and fathers) this group continues to declare how sadistic and evil fathers are. Two parent families have the lowest child abuse rates despite being the most common family structure, so the where's the logic in feminists opposing equal parenting?

-Radical feminists like Harriet Harman are trying to introduce bills which discriminate against men, particular white guys like myself, in the work force. Now, I don't have too much problem with affirmative action but when you start applying all around the workforce including female-dominated work places then I'm sorry; that's down right discrimination.
Harriet Harman is also responsible for introducing a bill which will basically give UK women a licence to kill. Basically all they have to do is shoot their husbands when they sleep then say their husband had been threatening them all their lives. Why is it too difficult to call the police. Of course men can't do the same to women because we all know women are incapable of psychological manipulation and threats (haha).

-Feminists continually create pseudo-statistics in order to form an attack on men. This is most notable at the moment in the US where they were trying to figure out why their aren't much women in engineering. The answer to this according to feminists is that MEN ARE SEXIST!!! Of course then they interviewed many women and found no sexism whatsoever. There was also overwhelming evidence that women simply didn't find engineering as appealing as men. Evidence includes things like men being systemizers and women being emphathizes, though of course this is a generalization it is in fact backed up by the fact that women dominate the social sciences and men the physical sciences. But of course feminists continued to insist it was due to sexism and now they're going to enforce a Title IX on the few male dominated courses left. Funny world we live in eh?

-Feminists continue to accuse men of earning more and say this is due solely to discimination. First of all: Men work longer hours on average, men aim for more money-focused jobs (look at distributions at universities), men take more life-risking jobs that women simply refuse to go for, men fight more aggressively for higher positions, no where is this more obvious than in politics, women also take longer leave including sick leave DESPITE THE FACT THAT MEN GET SICK MORE OFTEN. Secondly in terms of money each gender receives, outside of the workforce far more money goes from the male gender to the female gender. So in fact women have access to far more money; as men pay more taxes, more child support while women get priviledges such as maternal leave. Believe me, I don't have a problem with all this and I know that there are workplaces which discriminate in terms of pay against women, but the pay gap itself and every feminist attack on the gap itself is completely unjustified.

-Feminists killed chivalry. This was more or less an indirect consequence of feminism. However the fact that we now have political correctness as a means of enforced respect as opposed to the willful respect from chivalry tells me that women have to demand respect these days because quite frankly, they hardly worth giving chivalrous respect. Heck, men use to not be allowed to swear in a women's presence, but now we can get away with swearing in their faces. Believe me, I would prefer chivalry to replace political correctness but until women start respecting men back it's unlikely to be happening anytime soon.

I could say more, but I doubt anyone's going to read my whole comment anyway. In summary I'd like to say I support women's rights where they lack them, but I'm certainly not supporting a movement that demonises men (with exceptions like ifeminists of course), gives women priviledges at the expense of male rights, a movement which attempts to socially engineers society by being anti-marriage, anti-father, anti-motherhood etc etc.

So I leave you with this article about a particular dangerous feminism. I think people underestimate the evils of feminism:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1020553/Why-does-Harriet-Harman-hate-marriage.html[/u]

[Guest]

I can't stand men who force vocal women to admit they are feminists. It's far too convenient for them to hate and demonize women. Once they have a tag, they're like a dog with a bone.

[Guest]

how does feminism demonize men? If you are being assaulted by your spouse, it's easy for an outsider to say call the police and let them deal with it, but to a victim of domestic abuse, it isn't quite as simple as that. Some women have seriously derranged spouses who know they can get away with physically assaulting their wives, so much that they are too afraid to call the police or ask for help because they have been abused. That is why there are laws in force. Blame the men who are beating their wives up instead of channeling all your hate toward a movement who defend women.

[Guest]

I am an ANTIFEMINIST myself. I've seen enough of feministic ideologies and stupidity to be put off it for life. It doesn't mean I don't support women's rights, groups or movements, heck I even donate to women's groups.

But let me outline why I'm against feminists particular the N.O.W type:

-N.O.W has opposed equal parenting movements whether fathers are heavily dicriminated and lose the majority of custody battles due to money leeching courts. Despite the fact that the majority of child abuse is perpetrated by single mothers (though there are far more single mothers and fathers) this group continues to declare how sadistic and evil fathers are. Two parent families have the lowest child abuse rates despite being the most common family structure, so the where's the logic in feminists opposing equal parenting?

-Radical feminists like Harriet Harman are trying to introduce bills which discriminate against men, particular white guys like myself, in the work force. Now, I don't have too much problem with affirmative action but when you start applying all around the workforce including female-dominated work places then I'm sorry; that's down right discrimination.
Harriet Harman is also responsible for introducing a bill which will basically give UK women a licence to kill. Basically all they have to do is shoot their husbands when they sleep then say their husband had been threatening them all their lives. Why is it too difficult to call the police. Of course men can't do the same to women because we all know women are incapable of psychological manipulation and threats (haha).

-Feminists continually create pseudo-statistics in order to form an attack on men. This is most notable at the moment in the US where they were trying to figure out why their aren't much women in engineering. The answer to this according to feminists is that MEN ARE SEXIST!!! Of course then they interviewed many women and found no sexism whatsoever. There was also overwhelming evidence that women simply didn't find engineering as appealing as men. Evidence includes things like men being systemizers and women being emphathizes, though of course this is a generalization it is in fact backed up by the fact that women dominate the social sciences and men the physical sciences. But of course feminists continued to insist it was due to sexism and now they're going to enforce a Title IX on the few male dominated courses left. Funny world we live in eh?

-Feminists continue to accuse men of earning more and say this is due solely to discimination. First of all: Men work longer hours on average, men aim for more money-focused jobs (look at distributions at universities), men take more life-risking jobs that women simply refuse to go for, men fight more aggressively for higher positions, no where is this more obvious than in politics, women also take longer leave including sick leave DESPITE THE FACT THAT MEN GET SICK MORE OFTEN. Secondly in terms of money each gender receives, outside of the workforce far more money goes from the male gender to the female gender. So in fact women have access to far more money; as men pay more taxes, more child support while women get priviledges such as maternal leave. Believe me, I don't have a problem with all this and I know that there are workplaces which discriminate in terms of pay against women, but the pay gap itself and every feminist attack on the gap itself is completely unjustified.

-Feminists killed chivalry. This was more or less an indirect consequence of feminism. However the fact that we now have political correctness as a means of enforced respect as opposed to the willful respect from chivalry tells me that women have to demand respect these days because quite frankly, they hardly worth giving chivalrous respect. Heck, men use to not be allowed to swear in a women's presence, but now we can get away with swearing in their faces. Believe me, I would prefer chivalry to replace political correctness but until women start respecting men back it's unlikely to be happening anytime soon.

I could say more, but I doubt anyone's going to read my whole comment anyway. In summary I'd like to say I support women's rights where they lack them, but I'm certainly not supporting a movement that demonises men (with exceptions like ifeminists of course), gives women priviledges at the expense of male rights, a movement which attempts to socially engineers society by being anti-marriage, anti-father, anti-motherhood etc etc.

So I leave you with this article about a particular dangerous feminism. I think people underestimate the evils of feminism:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1020553/Why-does-Harriet-Harman-hate-marriage.html[/u]

scared of women?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNM8u1YtjMs

[Guest]

very cathartic that is exactly what it's like with fred75's posts

[Guest]

Harriet Harman is also responsible for introducing a bill which will basically give UK women a licence to kill. Basically all they have to do is shoot their husbands when they sleep then say their husband had been threatening them all their lives. Why is it too difficult to call the police.

that's a little far fetched and a little bit hypothetical. Letting your imagine run away with you

[Guest]

I am an ANTIFEMINIST myself. I've seen enough of feministic ideologies and stupidity to be put off it for life. It doesn't mean I don't support women's rights, groups or movements, heck I even donate to women's groups.

But let me outline why I'm against feminists particular the N.O.W type:

-N.O.W has opposed equal parenting movements whether fathers are heavily dicriminated and lose the majority of custody battles due to money leeching courts. Despite the fact that the majority of child abuse is perpetrated by single mothers (though there are far more single mothers and fathers) this group continues to declare how sadistic and evil fathers are. Two parent families have the lowest child abuse rates despite being the most common family structure, so the where's the logic in feminists opposing equal parenting?

-Radical feminists like Harriet Harman are trying to introduce bills which discriminate against men, particular white guys like myself, in the work force. Now, I don't have too much problem with affirmative action but when you start applying all around the workforce including female-dominated work places then I'm sorry; that's down right discrimination.
Harriet Harman is also responsible for introducing a bill which will basically give UK women a licence to kill. Basically all they have to do is shoot their husbands when they sleep then say their husband had been threatening them all their lives. Why is it too difficult to call the police. Of course men can't do the same to women because we all know women are incapable of psychological manipulation and threats (haha).

-Feminists continually create pseudo-statistics in order to form an attack on men. This is most notable at the moment in the US where they were trying to figure out why their aren't much women in engineering. The answer to this according to feminists is that MEN ARE SEXIST!!! Of course then they interviewed many women and found no sexism whatsoever. There was also overwhelming evidence that women simply didn't find engineering as appealing as men. Evidence includes things like men being systemizers and women being emphathizes, though of course this is a generalization it is in fact backed up by the fact that women dominate the social sciences and men the physical sciences. But of course feminists continued to insist it was due to sexism and now they're going to enforce a Title IX on the few male dominated courses left. Funny world we live in eh?

-Feminists continue to accuse men of earning more and say this is due solely to discimination. First of all: Men work longer hours on average, men aim for more money-focused jobs (look at distributions at universities), men take more life-risking jobs that women simply refuse to go for, men fight more aggressively for higher positions, no where is this more obvious than in politics, women also take longer leave including sick leave DESPITE THE FACT THAT MEN GET SICK MORE OFTEN. Secondly in terms of money each gender receives, outside of the workforce far more money goes from the male gender to the female gender. So in fact women have access to far more money; as men pay more taxes, more child support while women get priviledges such as maternal leave. Believe me, I don't have a problem with all this and I know that there are workplaces which discriminate in terms of pay against women, but the pay gap itself and every feminist attack on the gap itself is completely unjustified.

-Feminists killed chivalry. This was more or less an indirect consequence of feminism. However the fact that we now have political correctness as a means of enforced respect as opposed to the willful respect from chivalry tells me that women have to demand respect these days because quite frankly, they hardly worth giving chivalrous respect. Heck, men use to not be allowed to swear in a women's presence, but now we can get away with swearing in their faces. Believe me, I would prefer chivalry to replace political correctness but until women start respecting men back it's unlikely to be happening anytime soon.

I could say more, but I doubt anyone's going to read my whole comment anyway. In summary I'd like to say I support women's rights where they lack them, but I'm certainly not supporting a movement that demonises men (with exceptions like ifeminists of course), gives women priviledges at the expense of male rights, a movement which attempts to socially engineers society by being anti-marriage, anti-father, anti-motherhood etc etc.

So I leave you with this article about a particular dangerous feminism. I think people underestimate the evils of feminism:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1020553/Why-does-Harriet-Harman-hate-marriage.html[/u]

scared of women?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNM8u1YtjMs

With reference to the Harriet Harman article and the high rates of single mothers. Had it ever occurred to you that they might have been left by useless men? How is it their fault. Don't drag them into your useless debate. As for single mothers being the majority purportrators of abuse towards kids, what a load of sh*t

[The Antifeminist]

I am an ANTIFEMINIST myself. I've seen enough of feministic ideologies and stupidity to be put off it for life. It doesn't mean I don't support women's rights, groups or movements, heck I even donate to women's groups.

But let me outline why I'm against feminists particular the N.O.W type:

-N.O.W has opposed equal parenting movements whether fathers are heavily dicriminated and lose the majority of custody battles due to money leeching courts. Despite the fact that the majority of child abuse is perpetrated by single mothers (though there are far more single mothers and fathers) this group continues to declare how sadistic and evil fathers are. Two parent families have the lowest child abuse rates despite being the most common family structure, so the where's the logic in feminists opposing equal parenting?

-Radical feminists like Harriet Harman are trying to introduce bills which discriminate against men, particular white guys like myself, in the work force. Now, I don't have too much problem with affirmative action but when you start applying all around the workforce including female-dominated work places then I'm sorry; that's down right discrimination.
Harriet Harman is also responsible for introducing a bill which will basically give UK women a licence to kill. Basically all they have to do is shoot their husbands when they sleep then say their husband had been threatening them all their lives. Why is it too difficult to call the police. Of course men can't do the same to women because we all know women are incapable of psychological manipulation and threats (haha).

-Feminists continually create pseudo-statistics in order to form an attack on men. This is most notable at the moment in the US where they were trying to figure out why their aren't much women in engineering. The answer to this according to feminists is that MEN ARE SEXIST!!! Of course then they interviewed many women and found no sexism whatsoever. There was also overwhelming evidence that women simply didn't find engineering as appealing as men. Evidence includes things like men being systemizers and women being emphathizes, though of course this is a generalization it is in fact backed up by the fact that women dominate the social sciences and men the physical sciences. But of course feminists continued to insist it was due to sexism and now they're going to enforce a Title IX on the few male dominated courses left. Funny world we live in eh?

-Feminists continue to accuse men of earning more and say this is due solely to discimination. First of all: Men work longer hours on average, men aim for more money-focused jobs (look at distributions at universities), men take more life-risking jobs that women simply refuse to go for, men fight more aggressively for higher positions, no where is this more obvious than in politics, women also take longer leave including sick leave DESPITE THE FACT THAT MEN GET SICK MORE OFTEN. Secondly in terms of money each gender receives, outside of the workforce far more money goes from the male gender to the female gender. So in fact women have access to far more money; as men pay more taxes, more child support while women get priviledges such as maternal leave. Believe me, I don't have a problem with all this and I know that there are workplaces which discriminate in terms of pay against women, but the pay gap itself and every feminist attack on the gap itself is completely unjustified.

-Feminists killed chivalry. This was more or less an indirect consequence of feminism. However the fact that we now have political correctness as a means of enforced respect as opposed to the willful respect from chivalry tells me that women have to demand respect these days because quite frankly, they hardly worth giving chivalrous respect. Heck, men use to not be allowed to swear in a women's presence, but now we can get away with swearing in their faces. Believe me, I would prefer chivalry to replace political correctness but until women start respecting men back it's unlikely to be happening anytime soon.

I could say more, but I doubt anyone's going to read my whole comment anyway. In summary I'd like to say I support women's rights where they lack them, but I'm certainly not supporting a movement that demonises men (with exceptions like ifeminists of course), gives women priviledges at the expense of male rights, a movement which attempts to socially engineers society by being anti-marriage, anti-father, anti-motherhood etc etc.

So I leave you with this article about a particular dangerous feminism. I think people underestimate the evils of feminism:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1020553/Why-does-Harriet-Harman-hate-marriage.html[/u]

scared of women?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNM8u1YtjMs

Did I say I was scared of women? I said I supported many women's movements but not the one known as 'feminism'. As for single mothers being ditched by their husbands yes it does happen, but has it occured to you that those fathers know they won't win a custody battle in court anyway and therefore don't bother doing things the right way? Look at the custody battles; the vast majority of them go to mothers irrespective of how decent the father is. That said is it any wonder that when a man wants a divorce instead of risking an extremely biased court case he just leaves his wife?

As for demonising men, one has to only go as far as a women's studies lecture to see things like exaggerated rape statistics, lectures about how white men have and continue to oppress women, how the pay gap is a result of discrimination in the work place which is in the main completely false. One only has to look at feminist sites to see the misandry and complete rubbish preached there.

[Guest]

It is abit too convenient for men to slap the word feminist on women. Had it ever occurred to them, that some women just don't agree with them

[Guest]

It is abit too convenient for men to slap the word feminist on women. Had it ever occurred to them, that some women just don't agree with them