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Re: anyone NOT want children?

Postby Male Guest on Sat Oct 08, 2005 5:52 pm

it's not for me wrote:Are there any women (or indeed men) on here who actually hate the idea of having children? The idea of being pregnant repulses me, but the idea of having a child of my own repulses me even more. I'm nearly 30 and don't really feel as though I fit in with my friends. I would love to get married, but I'm worried that I will put guys off when I tell them I don't want and will never want kids.


There are guys who don't want children too (yes I am one). Having children is a huge financial and emotional committment that is not for everyone and in this day and age is, and indeed should be, a matter of personal choice. I am quite fulfilled in my life in most ways through my work and through doing the things I enjoy. It may be selfish of me but I don't want to give that up for something that I have never aspired to. It does seem to freak out women though that it is possible not to want kids.

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Re: anyone NOT want children?

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Postby Guest on Sat Oct 08, 2005 7:09 pm

All the women I know that have had breast cancer and eventually died from the disease have breastfed their children.

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Postby Guest on Sat Oct 08, 2005 7:11 pm

Andromeda wrote:
. wrote:Nuns don't get cervical cancer.


That's because they don't catch the wart (human papilloma) virus (STD) which causes it. Now that a vaccine has been produced against the wart virus, scientists are claiming that cervical cancer will be completely eradicated in the future.

It is a known fact that nuns get ovarian cancer. A gynaecologist actually told me that ovarian cancer was caused by years of ovulation with no rest-time. That's why the contraceptive pill is said to protect women from ovarian cancer.

BUT the contraceptive pill can produce <A HREF="http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_257">breast</A> cancer in youngish women. Another doctor has claimed that before the introduction of the contraceptive pill in the 1960s, <A HREF="http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_257">breast</A> cancer was something which only happened to older post-menopausal women. These young women who get it now, are getting it as a result of using hormones.

So it's all swings and round-abouts unless you decide to be a natural woman and have a child. AND <A HREF="http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_257">breast</A>-feed the child. <A HREF="http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_257">breast</A>-feeding protects women from <A HREF="http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_257">breast</A> cancer.


All the women I know that have had breast cancer and eventually died from the disease have breastfed their children.

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Postby Guest on Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:23 pm

. wrote:
. wrote:You should not have children:
1) If you don't like children,
2) If you can't care for them,
3) If you can't provide for them,
4) If you can't offer them any opportunities don't bring them into life to suffer,
5) If you don't have patience,
6) If you don't like child responsibilities.
7) If you don't like yourself or insecure about yourself don't breed.


What about if I get pregnant by accident? Do you think that having an abortion would make me like myself more?

And where does the father's rights come into all this? Suppose the father of the unborn child answers "No" to all of the above questions - would that give him a right to care for his child?


The burden of pregancy is on the woman she should have the final say so if she wants to carry that baby or not.

1) A woman can die from giving birth
2) A woman can gain serioius health problems while with child
3) Some women aren't fit to carry out a full pregnancy because they have a preexisting illnes or condition that would be unhealthy for the baby and themselves

Taking in all these factors, the only rights a father should have is if the woman has the baby and they are deciding how custody should be shared.

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Postby Guest on Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:25 pm

. wrote:
. wrote:
. wrote:You should not have children:
1) If you don't like children,
2) If you can't care for them,
3) If you can't provide for them,
4) If you can't offer them any opportunities don't bring them into life to suffer,
5) If you don't have patience,
6) If you don't like child responsibilities.
7) If you don't like yourself or insecure about yourself don't breed.


What about if I get pregnant by accident? Do you think that having an abortion would make me like myself more?

And where does the father's rights come into all this? Suppose the father of the unborn child answers "No" to all of the above questions - would that give him a right to care for his child?


The burden of pregancy is on the woman she should have the final say so if she wants to carry that baby or not.

1) A woman can die from giving birth
2) A woman can gain serioius health problems while with child
3) Some women aren't fit to carry out a full pregnancy because they have a preexisting illnes or condition that would be unhealthy for the baby and themselves

Taking in all these factors, the only rights a father should have is if the woman has the baby and they are deciding how custody should be shared.


Another point to make is when a couple lies together they both have to take responsiblity of a pregnancy, IF the woman decides to have a child. IF he doesn't want the child and she decides she doesn't then it works out for the both of them. If he doesn't and she does, then it's tough for him. He's going to have to accept the reponsibility.

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Postby Guest on Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:43 pm

. wrote:
. wrote:
. wrote:
. wrote:You should not have children:
1) If you don't like children,
2) If you can't care for them,
3) If you can't provide for them,
4) If you can't offer them any opportunities don't bring them into life to suffer,
5) If you don't have patience,
6) If you don't like child responsibilities.
7) If you don't like yourself or insecure about yourself don't breed.


What about if I get pregnant by accident? Do you think that having an abortion would make me like myself more?

And where does the father's rights come into all this? Suppose the father of the unborn child answers "No" to all of the above questions - would that give him a right to care for his child?


The burden of pregancy is on the woman she should have the final say so if she wants to carry that baby or not.

1) A woman can die from giving birth
2) A woman can gain serioius health problems while with child
3) Some women aren't fit to carry out a full pregnancy because they have a preexisting illnes or condition that would be unhealthy for the baby and themselves

Taking in all these factors, the only rights a father should have is if the woman has the baby and they are deciding how custody should be shared.


Another point to make is when a couple lies together they both have to take responsiblity of a pregnancy, IF the woman decides to have a child. IF he doesn't want the child and she decides she doesn't then it works out for the both of them. If he doesn't and she does, then it's tough for him. He's going to have to accept the reponsibility.


EXACTLY. It is HER choice. NOT some commentator on a message forum. It is not up to YOU or ME to decide whether someone else is fit enough or worthy enough to have a child.

If a woman chooses to have a child for the benefit of her partner or her partner's parents or even her own parents then that is HER choice.

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Postby ali_mon_x on Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:47 pm

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Because when it comes down to, what good reason does people have for having children besides carrying out reproduction as a basic survival of the human species. I don't want kids anytime soon, and I don't think I will ever have them. It's good to see more women feeling this way instead of being pressured into becoming baby making machines.



Isn't a woman is main function to reproduce children?


Yes if you live your life like a primate. Women today have much going on for themselves, which is more than I can say for women thousands of years ago from all civilizations who couldn't have forseen the life and rights that are afforded women today. Many women are becoming less concerned staying at home spitting out babies and more are becoming strong career focused women who are contributing more to soceity than giving birth. I think it's beautiful.


Yes - right up until the time when they get diagnosed with <A HREF="http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_257">breast</A> cancer, ovarian cancer or uterine cancer. It is a known and proven FACT that child-birth and <A HREF="http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/catalog/default.php/cPath/23_257">breast</A>-feeding protects a woman from cancer.

Modern women turn their backs on nature at their own peril.
Natural women live longer.


Pfft rubbish. My mum was 51 when she died from ovarian cancer and she had 3 kids. I think having kids was probably her downfall-she was rushed off her feet all the time and didn't have any time at all to herself to relax.

There's no way I'm having children just to supposedly decrease my risk of getting cancer. If it happens it happens!

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Postby Guest on Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:27 pm

And that's entirely your choice. You're quite right not to have them if you don't want them. After all, we are all at risk from cancer it just reduces the risk, it does not take it away completely. It's better to have quality of life, anyway.

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Postby TipsyDipsy on Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:34 pm

Don't ever have children just because of a lower chance of getting cancer thats a silly reason.
I love my daughter she's the best thing that ever happened to me but then i've always wanted children so it was different in my case.
Do what you feel is best for you and don't let anyone pressure you either way to do something your not happy with.
That doesn't just mean babies that applies for every aspect of your life.

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Postby Guest on Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:44 pm

Tipsy, you rule.

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Postby TipsyDipsy on Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:46 pm

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