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I think the fact that Winky comes on as a guest says it all.....probably goes on demos and to meetings with his hoody covering his face too.
Have a read of this you thick idiot before you go ranting on about the growth of the BNP.
Bradford BNP on the brink
December 29th, 2007By Nick Lowles
Tagged: Politics BNP fascists Nick Lowles
From: Searchlight
One of the British National Party’s most important branches is on the verge of collapse. Electoral defeat, demoralisation and personal infighting has caused the Bradford branch of the BNP to splinter.
It is a far cry from the heady days of 2004 when the BNP gained four councillors in the city and just missed out on several more. That year also saw the branch recruit more members than any other in the country.
Since then it has all been downhill for the BNP. In 2006 the BNP lost three councillors, while gaining only one. The party’s share of the vote dropped substantially in the 2007 local elections and these disappointing results proved to be the straw that broke the camel’s back.
There had been deep divisions and suspicions within the BNP branch for several years. The revelation that the local organiser, Andy Sykes, was working for Bradford TUC and Searchlight rocked the party, caused several key activists to drop out and created an atmosphere of paranoia.
There was particular animosity between James Lewthwaite and Paul Cromie. Both became councillors in Bradford South but there was where the connection ended. Their relationship soured as Lewthwaite became close to Angela Clarke, the Keighley councillor who was detested by Cromie and Mark Collett, the party’s national head of publicity.
Cromie was the chairman of Bradford BNP and Lewthwaite was leader of its councillor group, but they both led quite separate groups within the local party.
In February 2006 Angela Clarke walked out of Bradford BNP after Collett publicly abused her at a BNP meeting. At the time she was dating Warren Bennett, the party’s head of security, who was soon to have his own fallout with the party leadership.
Cromie’s relationship with Lewthwaite worsened, with Cromie repeatedly and quite publicly blaming his colleague for the party’s decline in the city. On several occasions he called on the party leadership to discipline or even expel Lewthwaite.
The BNP in Keighley never recovered from Clarke’s resignation. It lost the subsequent by-election and in the most recent council elections slipped to third place in the ward.
Darryn Manby, another Bradford South activist, became the local organiser, supposedly in conjunction with Nick Cass, the Yorkshire regional organiser, who had taken on direct responsibility for the ward. In June 2006 Cass confidently boasted that the BNP was going to put forward a complete slate of 30 candidates across the city and win seven seats.
It never happened and the BNP slipped back further. Cass disap-peared from view and Manby accused Collett of “gross incompetence” in a dispute over leaflet designs and subsequently resigned as organiser. He went on to say that Collett was “arrogant and interfering” as the argument, which included accusations about funding, prompted resentment across the wider membership.
A new branch committee was formed in June, with Neil Craig as organiser, Alec Edwards as treasurer, Andrew Clarke as secretary, David Taylor as leaflet and design coordinator and Les Nakonecznyi as sales and publications coordinator.
Cromie was not impressed and refused to get involved. He was furious that Lewthwaite had been appointed group development organiser, and as a result Cromie and his wife Lynda, since May 2007 also a Queensbury councillor, began operating indepen-dently of the branch.
The new branch secretary was full of hope that this new committee-led structure would overcome the problems of the past. “The new system is all about a transparent and accountable leadership,” he told members, “a recognised team of six individuals, each with different skills, working for the collective good of the party as we strive to expand membership and increase the size of the BNP vote.”
The BNP operation in Keighley, meanwhile, collapsed. Chris Kirby had taken over the branch and made it clear that he saw it as quite separate than Bradford. But he did not have the stomach for the fight. After a serious falling out with Ian Dawson, then the BNP’s national group support officer, which included refusing to attend a reconciliatory meeting called on the instructions of party leader Nick Griffin, Kirby walked out.
Despite Clarke’s fine words the committee failed, with several people resigning after just one meeting. Frank Brammah pulled out as organiser for Bradford North and Clarke, demoralised at the failure of the local party to work together, quit as secretary.
Craig remains as organiser but has little to organise. The Cromies continue to operate independently and Lewthwaite, who is no longer a councillor, meddles behind the scenes.
As Searchlight watches from the sidelines, it is important to note that these internal disputes are a con-sequence of political defeat. As we have seen in Oldham, Blackburn and now Sandwell, electoral decline is quickly followed by internal unrest.
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To be honest as a British born person now back living here I used to admire Nick Griffin and I have always believed that he has a genuine patriotism for the country. I also agree that immigartion in the UK is a farce and thatt we should fully adopt the USA or Australian rules for entry into the UK.
We are really the dustbin of Europe and its absolutley ridiculous that we cannot deport extremists who have just come out of prison for conspiring to cause murder and bloodshed.
I would vote for a right wing government that was keen to tighten up immigration and do away with the human rights act - or at least limit the use of it. The sad fact is though that Nick Griffin is just a puppet and the regional organisers are the controlling force behind BNP.
Its well documented that theses organisers are nothing but the leaders of gangs of thugs and the mental state of many of the BNP members has to be questioned.
Winky 89 (his birth year no doubt) a 19 year old who knows jack about life, jack about politics and talks like a moron. He is every reason why BNP will never ever win anywhere near enough seats to affect a government.
The fact is that if the British public were convinced that there was no Winkys in the BNP and that as a right wing party it could offer realistic solutions to immigration and put the indiginous people of the country first then I think support would grown to unprecidented levels.
Sadly BNP will ALWAYS have Winkys in their ranks. Uneducated cowards with no grasp on reality and whoes main interest is drinking and getting high on the money the state throws at them every two weeks.
On his own man to man the Winkys of this world become sweaty, nervous and would deny being a member of the BNP. They would run a mile when challenged by one of the minorities they attack when with thier mates.
It should of course be against the law for the Winkys to breed but they will of course and then leave the poor girl on her own or at best live with them and claim as much benefits as they can to spend on strong ale and cider while bumming spliffs off their mates.
One of the most enjoyable things for me for me about the far right is watching them self-destruct. Every time their vile message seems to be gaining support the fact that they hate each other even more than they hate their target groups catches up with them.
It doesn't mean we should be complacent though - they still need to be watched.
And you believe the BNP are self in destruct mode? i think some one has there wires crossed, they did very well in the local elections (unlike Labour) ime pleased to say.
Its purely a matter of time, then its bye bye Brown, bye bye Labour, i hope.
I agree largely witht he first post.
I think in Britain we have become too scared to express pride and patriotism in our own nation in fear that we may offend immigrants from other cultures.
People fail to understand that the reason immigrants come here is that they feel attracted to the British way of life and culture and so would expect to come to a Britain that maintains its feeling of patriotism.
If someone moves here from another part of the world, I'm afraid its THEIR duty to embrace Britain and all that it stands for and if they don't want to do that or are offended by British culture, then perhaps they shouldn't have chosen to come to Britain in the first place.
I agree largely witht he first post.
I think in Britain we have become too scared to express pride and patriotism in our own nation in fear that we may offend immigrants from other cultures.
who has? since when were you not allowed to say you were proud to be british? i dont understand what you mean?
People fail to understand that the reason immigrants come here is that they feel attracted to the British way of life and culture and so would expect to come to a Britain that maintains its feeling of patriotism.
immigrants come here for lots and lots of different reasons.
If someone moves here from another part of the world, I'm afraid its THEIR duty to embrace Britain and all that it stands for and if they don't want to do that or are offended by British culture, then perhaps they shouldn't have chosen to come to Britain in the first place.
Mogadishu & Noodles. Open your copies of the Guardian and The Independent (from which you two obvioulsy get all your politicial views) pull up a chair in your safe Socialist Paradise and read on - ignoring the real world - but don't bother this site with your "right-on" left wing, Britain-hating garbage. It is peopel like you who have made Britain the third world basket case it is today. Most people (acccepte Guardian and Independet readers) are sick to the back teeth of immigration and want to see an end to it. PERIOD. This country bends over backwards for migrants. We have the world's simplest to acces benefits system and we hand over billlions of pounds to every parasite and sponger who comes to these shores. Now your Socialst Clown friend, Brown has had a kicking in the polls your right on - "internationalist" socialist days are numbered. The wheels are coming offf the econeomy and there is trouble brewing. BIG TROUBLE. I wonder if you will be so "right on" in ten years time?
Does Pulitzer prixe winner Stiglitz's assessment of what's going wrong with the economy ring any bells with you? Or does it bore you because it doesn't feature any migrant bashing?
[Mogadishu & Noodles. Open your copies of the Guardian and The Independent (from which you two obvioulsy get all your politicial views) pull up a chair in your safe Socialist Paradise and read on - ignoring the real world - but don't bother this site with your "right-on" left wing, Britain-hating garbage.
Thats a very bland and overly-hashed argument. Oh and i love Britain.
It is peopel like you who have made Britain the third world basket case it is today.
I feel sure that a stay in a real 3rd world country may help you to re-phrase your words to some that are more realistic and truthful.
Most people (acccepte Guardian and Independet readers) are sick to the back teeth of immigration and want to see an end to it. PERIOD. This country bends over backwards for migrants
You dont know 'most people' and therefore your argument is majorly floored. Unless of course your looking at newpaper polls from your preferred read. That old chestnut
We have the world's simplest to acces benefits system and we hand over billlions of pounds to every parasite and sponger who comes to these shores. Now your Socialst Clown friend, Brown has had a kicking in the polls your right on - "internationalist" socialist days are numbered. The wheels are coming offf the econeomy and there is trouble brewing. [b]BIG TROUBLE. I wonder if you will be so "right on" in ten years time?[/quote][/b]
I dont need Gordon Brown or anyone else to tell me how think.
And i think you'll find that the highest percentage of parasites and spongers taking the piss out of the British benefits system are in fact British.
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